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AnalogPackrat
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Blame the left leaders in government who push the EV subsidies. And SpaceX has done more with less gov money than NASA w.r.t. advances in heavy launch vehicles and true reusability. Seems like a win.
Eh? No business leader can force investors to buy in. If gov gets involved to "facilitate" investment, then, again, blame gov.
No one is forced to work for any company. At least he's created a lot of jobs here in the US. How do you feel about free market resulting in off-shoring to places like China that have lax environmental, labor, and other laws? Is that a level playing field?
Until the rules of the game are changed, can you blame him (or any number of other business leaders doing the same thing)?
Hardly. The left voted in government that instituted subsidies to fund magic thinking. Musk saw better ways to build EVs and had a go at it. Tesla did pretty well even though the tech really isn't that great. At least he didn't do a Solyndra. And the rich left got their virtue signalling ego tripping fancy EVs.
How? Did he take money from "the right?" I think people on the side of free speech (which are now called "extreme right") are hopeful that he will improve the platform. Time will tell.
Three weeks in and this is your take?
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ruairioflaherty
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Vociferously denied by Elon today on twitter. And those trying to connect him to SBF definitely have a stink.
If Elon is just about money and power then he's going about it in a very strange way.
ruairioflaherty
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I'm not sure we have or had quite the free flow of information and access that you describe. That sounds a little more conspiratorial than I mean it to but those with power will exercise it, we all do in our own way.
Old media and entrenched interests have waged war on tech for 15 years now and done a very effective job at putting a target on their backs. Balaji Srinivasan makes this point over and over about the owners of the NYT Sulzberger et al, a name that almost no one knows.
Balaji is something of a techno utopian and I'm not behind everything he argues for, but in this case he is correct.
I think I'm all for the chaos at Twitter right now if it gives us some insight into who has been pulling the levers and who will in the future,
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And the CEO of FTX made equally large donations to GOP. Looks like they were playing both sides of the fence.
Are you saying no one knows who Sulzberger is? Because I have been reading criticisms of the Sulzberger family in left-leaning media outlets for literally decades.
I don’t have a particularly utopian view of social media, butit does have its moments. It has opened up avenues of communication that were otherwise largely inaccessible in traditional media. Sometimes that’s good, sometimes bad, sometimes stupid and annoying. And as with anything that is successful, there is always some jackass with money or power (or the desire for them) who seeks to manipulate it for his own ends.
But I don’t think it likely that whatever fills the vacuum Musk may create with his possible destruction of Twitter is going to be better than what it replaces. Most likely it will be worse. At this point we have no idea how it will all play out; however, the path Musk is currently on does not look all that wonderful.
I don't know, but I imagine a transfer of a 100 million in stock should be verifiable. Not that I'm that interested. It's just popcorn and a sofa to me. Whatever the outcome is fine. Haven't used my Twitter account in years.
I think it's about ego. He only cares about one human. And possibly his mum.
scott2000
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Heard it was only to the ones who voted to impeach or supported it or something.... but not sure if that's verified. Maybe a list would make it clearer.
https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/i...=2022&min_date=01/01/2021&max_date=12/31/2022
I am not familiar enough with House members to know who supported impeachment. I saw Murkowski on the list, and she did. However, opposing Trump does not by any means make a Republican liberal. Judging by the standard of likes/dislikes Trump is more abot cult of personality than political ideology.
That is the new left leaning media whatabouts....
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It looks like they were trying to buy access and influence from both sides (crony capitalism... aka corruption) and the "big guy" appeared to be receptive.
JR
How about “fair and balanced?” (to coin a phrase”)? Right wing media focuses exclusively on donations to Dem, because that is what serves their narrative. Sometimes it’s helpful to hear “the rest of the story” (to coin another phrase).
boji
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His deficiency (or suppression) at attributing emotion to choice might make him worthy of solving one of twitter's original problems, which was that it often incentivizes/monetizes the trading of emotional blows:
Cute
I already quoted fox business. In case you missed it here it is again.fox business said:
When buying influences it makes sense to slide more to the administration in office.
JR
The $262K is a gross misrepresentation. Salame gave $2 mill the GOP Senate Leadership Fund alone. And another $120K to McConnell’s PAC. Et cetera. But I wouldn’t expect an honest accounting from a right wing source.Cute
When buying influences it makes sense to slide more to the administration in office.
JR
The buzz I heard lately is musk wants to create a more robust video platform on Twitter to compete with YouTube. It is fascinating to speculate on direction. I remember thinking about getting an account on Twitter years ago but never did. I would love to see something compete with YouTube but cannot imagine that happening.
Lately I’ve been reducing my YouTube use to mostly guitar and music theory. I wasted way to much time on YouTube drama in the past.
Lately I’ve been reducing my YouTube use to mostly guitar and music theory. I wasted way to much time on YouTube drama in the past.
I think Musk would like to make it profitable. It has been losing money for years. He fired the marketing department because he is the buzz machine, just like at tesla.
JR
Matador
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Based on local experience, this isn't strictly a Twitter thing...
iampoor1
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Ita amazing seeing how the "citizen journalisim" happening in Twitter covering the SBF and FTX blowup has been way higher quality than any mainstream coverage. In fact it appears as if MSM has only written puffpieces ON SBF to make him look good, the wall street journal being the worst of the worst. I can understand why traditional media outlets have such a negative spin when hypocrisy of this magnitude can't be covered up.
Uh-oh.... Elon has pivoted from darling of the left to enemy.... Somehow free speech is now dangerous for democracy?
His first dump of internal TWITTER documents is just confirming what we already knew or suspected.... this will be pretty interesting to digest. I don't think twitter was an isolated example and Zuckerberg already admitted to facebook/Meta censorship being influenced by FBI, et al.
interesting times.
JR
His first dump of internal TWITTER documents is just confirming what we already knew or suspected.... this will be pretty interesting to digest. I don't think twitter was an isolated example and Zuckerberg already admitted to facebook/Meta censorship being influenced by FBI, et al.
interesting times.
JR
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AnalogPackrat
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The real hard "pivot" was the "Democrats" reversal on civil rights over the past 10 years or so. It should be apparent to everyone by now that that party no longer embraces actual liberty.
What many denied for years.
Also obvious to an honest impartial observer of facts.
Unfortunately, yes.
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